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Wine or beer? http://green.msn.com/Green-Living/Sip-Siding/?gt1=45002

The question was this:

” Hi Umbra,
Wine or beer?”
Today my interest lies mainly with the wine and beer question.
It deals with the carbon costs of production and transport of wine. For the carbon footprint left behind.

Still though the question that begs an answer to me is in the processing of wine and beer which leaves the biggest carbon footprint? For providing that transportation costs, growing costs and storage costs were equal wouldn’t these two questions make a difference if it were really about the environment?

Should we have a glass or wine or a glass of foamy beer? 

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Wine or beer? Which is better for the environment?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">The question comes from </span><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Norway</span><span style="font-size: 14pt;"> to a MSN website: </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><a href="http://green.msn.com/Green-Living/Sip-Siding/?gt1=45002"><span style="color: #800080;">http://green.msn.com/Green-Living/Sip-Siding/?gt1=45002</span></a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">The question was this:</span></p>
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<p class="NormalWeb79" style="background: white; margin: 0in 0in 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">”</span><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #333333; font-family: Tahoma;"> <strong><span class="Strong1">Hi Umbra,</span></strong></span></p>
<p class="NormalWeb79" style="background: white; margin: 0in 0in 12pt;"><span class="Strong1"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #333333; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>Due to, among other things, (organic) beer, I ended up in a rather heated discussion on the environment the other day. I&#8217;m wondering if you could help clear up a couple of these more or less classic micro-level questions. Which is more environmentally friendly: lighting a cigarette with a match or a lighter? (And how bad is smoking from an environmental point of view anyway?) After hand wash: paper towel or air dryer? Paper cup of coffee or good old ceramics? Wine or beer?”</strong></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Today my interest lies mainly with the wine and beer question.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">The answer given deals with mainly transportation and in what quantities it is moved in.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">One of the obvious answers is not to drive and drink as it cost much energy to drive.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">The author used a 2007 study called “Red, White, and Green,” <a href="http://www.drvino.com/2007/10/30/calculating-the-carbon-footprint-of-wine-my-research-findings/"><span style="color: #800080;">http://www.drvino.com/2007/10/30/calculating-the-carbon-footprint-of-wine-my-research-findings/</span></a> . It deals with the carbon costs of production and transport of wine. The report, <a href="http://www.wine-economics.org/workingpapers/AAWE_WP09.pdf"><span style="color: #800080;">http://www.wine-economics.org/workingpapers/AAWE_WP09.pdf</span></a> , mentions the CO2 emissions caused by the making of wine but it proposes that it is more then offset by the CO2 that the vines take remove from the air. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">So they basically look at the cultivating and machinery needs and transportation of the product.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>In short they boil the issue down to how the product is shipped and how far. And how they store it.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Beer on the other hand boils down to storage refrigeration at stores, manufacturing the glass bottles and producing the barley and malt. And finally the transportation. For the carbon footprint left behind.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Still though the question that begs an answer to me is in the processing of wine and beer which leaves the biggest carbon footprint? And the second question, is this, what about in the actual use of the product?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Does anyone know this? Does anyone care about this but me? I would think that in the environmental equation it would be important to know this also, so that one would make wise decisions on what to drink. For providing that transportation costs, growing costs and storage costs were equal wouldn’t these two questions make a difference if it were really about the environment?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">But let’s get real; it is really about feeling good about getting high that we ask these questions. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Isn’t it?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Should we have a glass or wine or a glass of foamy beer? Which one at this point gives off the biggest carbon footprint.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Awaiting a good answer.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Cheers and bottoms up,</span></p>
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